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October 2004 - The Third Side

Mike Pardee, Haley Molinari, Brian Farr, (hidden on drums) Demon Wimes


On their website they say "The Third Side is a band that will keep you looking for the truth!". I don't know exactly what that means, but I did get find out the truth from Mike Pardee, Hayley Morinelli, and Brian Farr about what their band is doing now, and what's coming up in their future.



SCS: How and when did The Third Side form as a band?

Brian: Well Mike and I have been playing together for about 15 yrs give or take a day. We seem to always stay together from one project to another. So after Thread broke up we kinda messed around with other stuff. I played in a band that I can't remember the name but we only played a few gigs and then we broke up. That is when Mike and I got together with Demon and began working on this project. That was about 1999 After trying out different singers Hayley "found" us and in 2002 that is when it became the lineup that it is today.

Mike: That's the kind of response I would expect from someone who's on crack. Brian has an interesting take on reality. Brian is actually what's commonly known as a "stalker." I can't seem to lose this f*ckr. Every where I turn, I can't shake him. So any time a possible band situation comes up, the bass player I am with at the time, turns up "missing." As far as Demon goes, he played in an awesome band back in the day called Resin8, which included Dustin Herbek from Big Daddy and a couple other guys, Aaron Foster and Dave Briggs who tore it up. We played a few shows with them, when Brian and I were doing the Thread thing. Demon just rocks too hard to be with anyone else, we had to have him. Then I recorded a little four song demo for them and almost immediately fell deeply and madly in love with Demon. Someday we will be able to express our love in front of god and our family's like two men in love really should.

Demon, Brian, and I played together for over a year with a few different singers. None of which really fit us properly. We were really hoping, and writing tunes that would fit a female voice. We just hadn't found the right one. At this point, a year later, I was ready and in fact on the verge of throwing in the towel. I was so sick of going nowhere. We had a set worth of music that was laying there worthless without vocals. That's when Hayley entered the scene.

I manage a dietze music store in town, when Hayley came strolling in. I saw this lost little fawn, gazing at our guitar wall. I asked her if she was looking for a new guitar. She "hesitantly" proceeded to tell me her life story. She was under the impression, after speaking to friends, that she needed to play an instrument in order to be in a band. After further conversation, it became apparent that she was a vocalist serious about music and had very similar taste in music to what we were up to. I sent her home with a cd and demanded she attend our practice that night. She did, and the rest is history.



SCS: What is the sound/feel you’re going for exactly, it’s kind of metalish, but very subdued metal. Or perhaps it might be more accurate to say it’s heavy, but not metal. How do you describe your music?

Brian: I guess we never really thought about a "sound" per say. We just mix together our styles and this is what it sounds like. I guess you could describe it as. leavy or hight rock with a little dark frosting on top. (shrugs)

Mike: I don't know exactly what we sound like. We try to do what feels right. Something that stirs emotion, something that moves in stages, something that lives in different levels, hopefully something different than a lot of bullsh*t that exists.

Hayley: Our music really is a combination of so many different styles which reflect each of our own backgrounds. I don't know which genre we would be classified into if they were deciding where to place us in a music store. It's sort of Rock-Alternative-Metal-Pop. Do they have a RAMP section?



SCS: How would you describe your live show? -- If people come to see you live, what can they expect?

Brian: I am not sure how to describe us…..stimulating in a root canal kind of way, not bad until the bit gets hot. It usually consists of Mike flipping me shit the whole time. I have to up my meds because of him.

Mike: I would like to think that our shows are an aural experience. We've been experimenting with different tones and textures and trying to throw in some visual candy. I'd like to keep it fresh at every show, that's a hard thing to do.



SCS: What types of music and which musicians/groups influenced the band members?

Mike: I wouldn't even know how to begin to answer this. There are so many bands, artists, that I get into. I am into a lot of old and some new stuff. Chrome, Man or Astroman?, Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Radiohead, Queens of the Stone Age, Killing Joke, The Smiths, The Jam, the list goes on an on. Right now I'm diggin' the new Muse album, very radioheadish, but I little more hard hitting and riffy. Check it out, it's f*cking nicely done.

Hayley: Mike will want to smack me for saying this, but I'm a total "American Top 40's" girl. My mom played ABBA, Andy Gibb, and Heart to me on the big headphones whilst in her womb. I started watching MTV when I was 6 or 7 and was always parading my parents around town for the latest 80's pop/rock record single. I'm a sucker for any song with great vocal harmonies mixed in with some swelling minor chords, that's why I continue to love ABBA so much. As for my vocal style, Madonna, Laura Branigan, Pat Benatar, and yes, Debbie Gibson, are among the greatest influences.

Brian: I grew up with Tower of Power and Parliament. My brother would have a band that was practicing when I was little and they would be doing Isley brothers covers. Then I heard Kiss and moved to Killing Joke, Devo, B-52’s, Chrome, The Cramps and others.



SCS: Where did the band's name come from?

Mike: That's in the eye of the beholder.

Brian: (In Booming Voice) BEHOLD!!!



SCS: How do you think you’ve grown, musically and creatively, since the band first started?

Mike: We haven't, we need to write some new freakin material, and NOW!!!!!

Hayley: I've grown a lot in the past 2 years. I'm finally getting to the point where I feel confident on stage. Even though I've performed on stage several times before in plays and musical theater, I was always playing a character. It's interesting how just "playing yourself" can be more challenging.

Brian: Well….nothing, forget I said anything.



SCS:Who writes the songs, and how do you work them from idea stage to finished product?

Mike: Ooh let me see if I can remember how we did that. I think I used to write a progression or a hook or a semi structured song. Then Demon and Brian throw some serious groove down on it, which prompts me to change my original lily white riff to something with a little more feel and color. Then once we get a fairly tight grasp on that, Hayley comes in and steals my guitar line for her vocals. I then write guitar parts to work around that. If I'm lucky, she keeps her vocal part and doesn't steal gtr revision 3a(beta) for her own, and we have a song.

Hayley: Hey! That only happened like once or twice! That is a pretty good description of how it works, though. Once the guys have made out a rough outline, we'll record it, and then I just listen to it over and over until a melody line hits me (hopefully one that Mike is not already playing). Then we'll come together again to structure the parts (bridges, etc.) around my lyrics. We all play/sing by ear so there's no sheet music around.



SCS: Do you have a favorite song of yours to play live?

Mike: They all suck ass. Kidding, I like "Opposite The Sun". It hits you hard, then it backs off, gets all trippy, then kicks your ass at the end. Especially if our video show is rolling. The rest suck though

Hayley: Oh that Mike. . . My favorites are "All Is Gone" because I think it's the prettiest and most powerful vocally, and our cover version of Britney Spears' "Toxic" because I love doing Saturday Night Live-type impressions.

Brian: I like any of the songs that I don’t screw up on….so that would be…umm nevermind.



SCS: When and where was your first local show, and how did it go?

Mike: Halloween 2002. We played at the Southwood Clubhouse. We had a rockin party. There were 100+ people partying down. Marianas opened up, with their first show, I love those guys, followed by us, and closing out the show was the lovely, the talented, the extremely f*cking loud Tangelo. Holy shit, the neighbors were pissed. I've heard how loud Pat (Bradley) is before, but not that freakin loud. This was not our finest hour, we had our fair share of technical difficulties, not to mention, Hayley's first show as a singer in a band, not to mention, no working monitors for her, the list goes on. It was fun though, and the cops only came twice.

Brian: Yeah when the cops came and here Mike, Demon and I are dressed like Terrorist/Missonaries caring plastic guns. I am surprised I didn’t hear a gun shot and then FREEZE!!!



SCS: What was your most memorable live performance and what made it that?

Mike: For me it was our 4th of July show out at our buddy Eric's house. He did it up. We played at sundown in his big ass front lawn, the weather was perfect, we played great, the crowd was receptive, and naked. Kenny Whitmore ran sound with his medieval and righteous rig. We had never experienced a 4 way monitor mix. We could actually hear what each of us were doing. Unbelievable! It sound great out front as well. We got done with our set, and a firework display that rivals Holmes lake was right above our head. Amazing, perfect night.

Hayley:He's absolutely right (minus the "nakie" part), I think we all would agree on that one being the most memorable.

Brian: I missed the nakie part?



SCS: What do you like and dislike about the music scene in Lincoln?

Mike: Unfortunately, I don't have much time to go check out other bands. When I'm not working, I kind of hermitize myself in the studio. There always seems to be something to troubleshoot or tweak so I can't really answer that effectively. I do like the Amalgamators, they bluegrass the f*ck out of it. I like to see For Against is back with the one and only Harry Dingman. If you get a chance to see a Rusty Banks performance, I highly recommend it. That dude is sick, a classically trained guitarist who I think might be from Pluto or maybe beyond. We've played several shows with an awesome band, Linchpin. Go see them, they tear it up. I do, however, hate the fact that 90% of the local music scene is comprised of bars that cater solely to cover bands. I'm sorry, buy I don't believe in cover bands. If I want to hear old songs I'll pull out an old fucking CD, and hear it the right way. Don't get me wrong, I like it when bands do covers, but do it in their own way. Hell, we do it. It's fuckin fun. We do Billy Joels' Pressure and a Britney Spears song. I wanna do more, but we have all these bars who only support cover bands. I can understand why these bands exist and why the bars are the way they are. $$$$$. But why? So what it boils down to is what people will pay for. Apparently Lincolnites want to hear what's familiar. Ooh don't take any risks, don't go out on a limb to hear something new. I thought this was a college town. It seems like the majority of the student population is more concerned with buying another Sam Adams than seeing a new band. Unless of course the female student body is into some band. My $.02.

Hayley: I wish I could provide a more upbeat answer, but, sadly, I have to agree with Mike. I hope that we can be proven otherwise, but it really does seem that way at this point. And that is really frustrating and disheartening when you believe you have a sound that a majority of the public would really enjoy and yet, you're limited in sharing it.

Brian: I only have a penny and that is not enough. So I will just agree with Mike and Hayley.



SCS: As for Mike and Brian, you guys have been on the scene for a long while. Mike, I know that you had worked in the studio with Morphine Angel back in the early 90’s, and Brian you used to play with Phil Judt and John Fynbu in Ghost Dance Ritual, among other bands back in the day. What do you think has changed in the Lincoln music scene over the years?

Mike: That was a different Mike with Morphine Angel, Mike Farrar(sp?) My first band was age a band called Common Factor. I was 15 when we started, all original. We opened for For Against at the Brickyard back when before that became a "cool slummin" drunken hangout for the high school football jocks. Tom Irvin sang, a guy named Tim Mcauliff played drums, and probably the most talented guy I've ever met in Lincoln played bass. Tom Meiwald was his name. Awesome guitar/bass player, super talented songwriter and singer, then Brian had to go and kill him and take his place next to me. Actually I lost track of him, hopefully he is doing well. We knew about four chords, but we knew how to use them.

Next I was in a band called Hemlock. Speed metal all the way. We started as an instrumental band. We had this bad ass bass player named Tim Sandberg. He was like Geddy Lee on Crack. And Jason Barton, a drummer who was in the same realm. Double bass pedal, balls to the wall. Then after Brian killed Tim and took his place next to me, we decided that we needed vocals, so I took the reigns on that pig. To call it singing is a huge leap of faith. Screaming!!! We were going down that slayer road though, it didn't really matter what you said but how you said it.

After that I did some side projects that never amounted to anything, I really wanted to do some Ministry type stuff, with sampling, buy I never could get the lineup. I took some time off to get married(mistake) and do some other worthless bullshit before forming Thread. That started out with me, Brian(obviously) with Bob Spire and Phil Judt. Then Bob left and we went through singer turmoil again. Brian sang for awhile until we happened upon Andrew Snook who had just left Echoing Green. Now that dude could sing. I really miss him. He was forced to leave us to move to LA. I'm really surprised I haven't seen his ass on MTV cribs. After he left us I lost the will and laid low for several years to raise my daughter and catch up on some good books. As far as what has changed, besides everything? nothing.

Brian: Man you sure can talk…most of those guys just had “accidents”. I remember those guys playing bass and thinking; man they are good and I hope I can be as good as they are and when I bury them I will…….ummm….nevermind.



SCS: Do you think growing up/living in Lincoln influences your music in any way?

Mike: I hope not.

Hayley: I grew up in Omaha then moved to Lincoln for college. I'm the "big city" one in the band...although, that's pretty sad! I really think we'd sound the same no matter where we came from.

Brian: Nope!



SCS: Who are some local bands or musicians that you admire or feel should be recognized?

Mike: I may have answered of few of these already, but first and foremost Harry Dingman III(For Against, The Millions) Benjamin Kushner(The Millions, Mescal Brothers(now)), Pat Bradley, Hugh Hansen, Nick Buller (Amalgamators), Rusty Banks(indy), Phil Judt (no longer in town) Tim Masters and Terry Yokam(Linch Pin) Dan Kaspari and Ted Alesio (The Return) and especially Rob Arnold.

Brian: I have much respect for Rusty Banks and Jamie Cox (dfunk) is a bass thumping mo fo. But Phil Judt is the man who made me get into the groove and I am glad that he is my best friend and brother.



SCS: Have you learned anything in your experiences in a band that you feel newer local bands could learn from, or made any mistakes they should avoid?

Mike: Stay away from Brian Farr, he's f*ckin evil.

Brian: I am not evil! I just like Mike in a Hannibal Lector kind of way. Besides I just listen to the voices

Hayley: I think that all depends on your sound and what audience you're likely to capture, which bar will let you play, etc. I think we're still learning



SCS: Are you working on a new album now, and if so, when do you expect it to come out?

Mike: We've got the music done for 13 tunes. We will start laying vocals down next week with an expecting release in 2005...maybe 2006 at this rate.



SCS: If you could tour with any band in history, who would be your dream band to tour with?

Mike: Captain and Tennille.

Hayley: ABBA, and you know my answer is serious!

Brian: I am with Mike..I saw C and T when I was about 9 or 10. The Capt was rockin and you know that when she was singing Muskrat love he was putty in her hands.



SCS: Who was the first person or band you saw that made you want to play music?

Mike: Kiss

Hayley: Mike's really gonna give me the smack-down for this one, but it's Debbie Gibson.

Brian: Pat Benatar and then I saw Primus and said “I can do that” Then I woke up and had to change my sheets.



SCS: What was the first album/CD you bought?

Mike: Devo Whip it single

Hayley: First 2 singles that I made my Dad buy: America's "You Can Do Magic" and The Cars' "Shake It Up", my first album purchase: Madonna's True Blue.

Brian: I went on vacation with my parents when I was about 7 and I bought Parliament Mothership Connection on vinyl in New Orleans. I said that I was going to keep the record safe so I put it in the back window of our car. Until I bought that album on CD about 5 years ago I did not know what the first song sounded like. “We…(skip) want (skip) the funk (skip)”



SCS: Whose music are you listening to right now? -- What other bands would you recommend people check out?

Brian: Radiohead , Primus, Massive Attack , Old Skool Funk

Mike: Muse

Hayley: Mostly all of my old 70's/80's pop/rock cassettes and an occasional newer cd. Most of my favorites aren't performing anymore.



SCS: List off your top five albums of all time.

Mike: That's a toughy.

  • Helios Creed-The Last Laugh
  • Chrome-Box
  • Sex Pistols-Never mind the bullocks or Dead Kennedys-Rotting Fruits
  • Joy Division-Closer
  • NIN-The Fragile

    Brian:

  • Helios Creed – The Last Laugh
  • 24-7 Spyz- Gumbo Millennium
  • 24-7 Spyz- Strength in Numbers
  • Groove Collective- Self Titled
  • Queens of the Stone Age- Rated R

    Hayley:

  • ABBA-The Visitors
  • Garbage-Version 2.0
  • Madonna-True Blue
  • Wham!-Make It Big
  • Tears For Fears-Songs From The Big Chair



    SCS: What single song, in the entire history of music, do you most wish you'd written?

    Mike: Smells Like Teen Spirit

    Brian: Happy Birthday

    Hayley: "The World Is Not Enough" by Garbage



    SCS: Mike, who are your guitar heroes?

    Mike: Helios Creed, Reeves Gabrels with Bowie, Les Paul offuckincourse, Johnny Marr from The Smiths and The The, Jimi, Stevie, those Slayer guys.



    SCS: What can we look forward to in the next year from the band?

    Mike: Full length Cd, I hope and more audio/video performances.

    Brian: Hopefully more gigs!!



    SCS: Anything else you want to share with our readers?

    Mike: Keep supporting the scene, keep your minds open to the new shit.

    Brian:AMEN BRUTHA!!!






    - Tery Daly